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Where do you put Freeza's second form?
Topic Started: May 18 2018, 11:47 AM (990 Views)
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Freeza says it must be over 1 million. Piccolo says that his powerful has increased several times. Unless Piccolo made a mistake, Freeza must be nowhere near to 1 million and actually way above that.
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Don't think Freezable would be very humble about his power.

I'll take his word for it
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True, but he can't sense ki and had probably not transformed for a very long time. Would he really bother to know his power as "over 2 million" instead of over "1 million", for example, when it's still only an insignificant percentage of his total power? It's like if you were a millionaire and had a bank account with some small change in it (less than $1000 dollars) that you hadn't checked for 20 years - would you be able to accurately say how much is in there after all that time?
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Probably in the 1.5 - 1.8 million range
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Well, he increases his power twice and starts over one million.
These are my levels:

Second Form Frieza- 1,060,000
Second Form Frieza (Increase)- 1,350,000
Second Form Frieza (Max)- 1,410,000
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This is where I put Freeza overall.

Freeza: 530,000
-Second Form: 1,060,000
--Less Suppressed: 1,200,000
--Full Power: 1,500,000
-Third Form: 2,250,000
-True Form(Heavily Suppressed): 3,000,000
--50%: 60,000,000
--100%: 120,000,000
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Piccolo says that his power has increased by several times after his initial transformation though?
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What quote are you referring to?

Because in his Second form, Frieza increases his power twice.
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May 18 2018, 02:13 PM
-Third Form: 2,250,000
-True Form(Heavily Suppressed): 3,000,000
That's a pretty small gap there considering Vegeta was expecting to be stronger than Final Form Freeza and yet got totally rekt. Where do you have Vegeta after his Zenkai? And how about Vegeta's expections for final form Freeza?

Freeza (Actual) >> Vegeta (Zenkai) >> Freeza (Expected) >> Third Form Freeza.
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At most 1.5m. I have him around 1,300,000 max power personally.
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I always had his 2nd form's full power at around 1.35 million. Piccolo is 1.4-1.45 million as to get an advantage and Frieza's third form is around 1.9 million.
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This "several times" quote you're talking about must be a dub-ism or something, because I'm not seeing it in either the directly-translated Strength Checker quotes or even Viz's translation. Embellishing something to say it's increasing "several time" over or "exponentially" is exactly the type of confusing exaggeration you tend to hear in the dub, even in Kai now and then.


Anyway, since everybody's doing it and I want to be one of the cool kids...

Freeza (2nd form): 1,100,000
-- Power-Up 1: 1,300,000
-- Power-Up 2: 1,500,000
3rd Form: 2,000,000
Piccolo: 1,500,000

Pretty straightforward, almost boringly so.
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-Third Form: 2,250,000
-True Form(Heavily Suppressed): 3,000,000
That's a pretty small gap there considering Vegeta was expecting to be stronger than Final Form Freeza and yet got totally rekt. Where do you have Vegeta after his Zenkai? And how about Vegeta's expections for final form Freeza?

Freeza (Actual) >> Vegeta (Zenkai) >> Freeza (Expected) >> Third Form Freeza.
Eh, I think you're looking at this wrong. Vegeta could actually sense Freeza's battle power, and thought he should be able to beat him, so I figure Vegeta thinks he's stronger than he actually is.

Chapter: 304 (DBZ 110), P10.5-6
Context: after Dende heals him
Vegeta: “Freeza’s battle power…! So he’s finally shown his true form, huh?...Well, I don’t care if Freeza or anyone else comes at me…! I’ve just now become a Super Saiyan…!”
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May 18 2018, 02:30 PM
What quote are you referring to?

Because in his Second form, Frieza increases his power twice.
Just after the transformation from his first form.

He doesn't actually say "several times", he says "the strength of Freeza's ki has increased many times over", my bad. Still makes Freeza's initial second form power being anything under 1.5 million (at a minimum) very unrealistic.

I'm just going by DBZ Kai, Japanese dub.

Just checked the manga....and Piccolo says absolutely nothing about Freeza's initial transformation. Fml :T_T:
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you guys do realize the numbers were released in the daizenshuu 7 ...
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